I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x I often feel articles such as this are skewed. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. Thanks! I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. [/quote] [/quote] [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! Distance is great. Carry Distance 302.9 [/quote] I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. The following is Torrey Pines South, where golfers line up each morning for a chance to play one of Americas 100 Greatest Public Courses (Golf Digest). All rights reserved. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. 5 Testers Needed! [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. Not at all. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. Skill Triumphs Over All! Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group? Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that its mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries. That's what I think. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I think you wish you hit it further. Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. Tee and Approach Shots! [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer They are clean and contemporary. In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. [/color] But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. Carry Distance 302.9 Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] [/quote] Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. I think you wish you hit it further. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Lol, so true.. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! I also shot 86. I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. The title would be just as useful as well. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I think those numbers are a little high. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). 714 AP2 4-p [quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1364407652' post='6707945'] I don't measure my driver distance. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. Absolutely awesome numbers though. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. [/quote] Am I as good as tour pro? Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. #TeamTrackMan The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. [quote name='J.W.' Fan Mail Justin Thomas Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. I hit the same. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. STEAL THESE FROM ME! Club Head Speed 119.55 The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. Either way I don't care. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. [/quote] I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. a higher loft) than the actual degree loft number shown on their club. I guess that's laughable though, right? Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. any 7 iron data ? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. And when it comes to how far Tiger Woods, arguably the greatest iron player of all time, hits his irons? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . It's the short game. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. [/quote] First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. Especially the average driving distance data. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. My average distance was 235-245. At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. I also shot 86. Pasted as rich text. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Hang Time 5.8 Not As Much As You Think! Playing golf as early as two-years-old, Justin learned all aspects of the game. Yes! I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. I think you wish you hit it further. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? WebJon Rahm TrackMan Numbers. They were measured with GPS. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing.
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