She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. German was your usual extrovert, with a dream of one day becoming a science teacher. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown. Cookie Notice Thank you so much! Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? Robert, have you heard that Mr X had a deer blind on the Mears property? I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. Days later the State of Indiana issues him a lifetime concealed carry permit signed by Superintendent Doug Carter. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. You dont have LE sources. Theres a connection that has been missed! We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings, which police continue to investigate. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? That is the statement from the woman on the search team. Only a deer kit looks just like that. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Wife left him. The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? I am not sure. Theyre not that common. Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings. LE has no clue what is going on. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. The documents, filed in 2020 and heavily redacted, do not mention the murders of Libby and Abby and he has not been accused of involvement in their deaths. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? She says if the girls help with her filing work, she . Drunkard perhaps. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. I dont get it. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. The Indiana State Superintendent of Police is proud of the arrest of an accused in the Delphi massacre. We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. Hes innocent. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Richard 'Ricky' Allen, Delphi Murders Suspect: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com He has pleaded not guilty to the charges. I have one more message for you. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. They have also suggested that the crime scene was odd in nature. RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. It is currently unclear what the. Allen told investigators on Oct. 13, 2022, that he wore jeans and a blue or black Carhartt jacket that day, according to the probable cause affidavit. All of the speculation about their final moments is unconfirmed. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LEs investigation of him. Exactly how the girls died remains unknown to the public, and the state their bodies were discovered in also remains shrouded in mystery. Delphi murders: Anthony Shots profile tied to Abby & Libby deaths - WANE 15 Great to see you back on the case! Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. Isnt that logical. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. You cannot keep your own story straight. He was searching for the girls. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges. The Delphi hiking murders - Abigail Williams and Liberty German Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Thanks. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? This year, Allen "again admitted" to police "that he was on the trail but denied knowing Victim 1 or Victim 2 and denied any involvement in their murders," according to the probable cause affidavit. 14) For more, see video, though this is the gist of it. Because no debt or grudge or anything can ever justify 2 little girls being murdered. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. The two dates are perfect reversals of one another. Police found the girls lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. She was found in an ivory/white dress. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Almost zero. According to video recovered from one of the victim's phones, Abby or Libby mentioned "gun" as a man approached them, the probable cause affidavit said. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. Not sure if thats what this is about, but if so, Im not sold. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. There appears to be no mention of the Delphi murders or any information linking Kline to the case. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. We doubt if she did contact his wife. Lets hope they find some peace. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the shows founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesdays Crime Stories to discuss the case. They hiked on to the the abandoned and somewhat dangerous Monon High rail Bridge, over Deer Creek. Libbys phone did not record him for 43 seconds. Delphi Murders Transcripts: Suspect Said He Knew Libby German Was at The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. This may extend to age 15. It was also reported that a cyclist was murdered on the same trail around the same time Nations was threatening the hikers. This has helped me a lot. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. The family knew something was wrong. Not sure of the significance here. Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. Important facts released by family. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. The man has never been identified. The suspect in a still from the video taken on Libby German's phone. The girls bodies were discovered on his property - just1,400 from his house - and it was revealed over the summer that his alibi for the day of the murder did not line up. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. Im not sure if its better that way or not. [43] Libby's grandmother, Becky, makes a deal with the girls. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. Keep perusing to discover what the supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages are about. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. Mr Kline allegedly told investigators he would use social media accounts to talk to underage girls and had exchanged messages with and received about 100 sexual photos and about 20 sexually explicit videos from around 15 underage girls. But my opinion isnt worth anything. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. Also how about this? I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. He's charged with two counts of murder and has entered a not guilty plea. I find it very hard to believe either of the girls were targeted by anyone-everything about this case screams random attack by a killer who knew the most likely location to find female victims he could easily overpower. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. They are black and white and do mention some aspects of how they died. Search warrants obtained by a podcast and a local television station are shedding new . It is unclear when and where the photo was taken. Via LE Source A, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. Hi folks! I would like to email this , as it is not particularly relevant to the comments on this page. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. For five years, the murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German have hung over Delphi, ghosts that couldn't be put to rest. Is he into numerology? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. New details of Delphi Bridge Murders reveal victims died in bloodbath It finally started to sink in to these geniuses when the case was made look one of the eye witnesses who contributed to the 1st BG sketch is a lady who lives right behind Ron Logan, dont you think if the Killer was Ron that she would say, simply yeah the guy I saw that day lives right behind me? Not that anyone who has half a brain needs to be convinced Ron Logan is not the killer lol. The male model whose photos were used has been identified and is not a person of interest in the case, investigators said. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? Get real. DELPHI, Ind. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. What do you all think?" Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! I still have the pic. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. So you try to make it look like theres an accident. In September of 2020, messages began circulating online that were allegedly between the man who found the girls' bodies and his friend. Text messages have been circulating online regarding the case, as has speculation about some of the evidence that is being kept under wraps. I DO think that if there is evidence of staging that insinuates a methodology , therefore suggests it could be a serial killer. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. We can look into any case we want! He is described as a white male aged between 16 and 40 years old, between 5 6 and 5 10 in height and weighing between 180 and 200 pounds. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. Posed, which I believe is what this scene is, that is for the offenders gratification.. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. This March marks the 30 th anniversary of the murder of 21 year-old Penn State student, Dana Bailey. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. There is no doubt in my mind or anyone who is in possession of an IQ higher than double digit range that Ron Logan is not the killer. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. Staging- by definition means they were placed/posed pre or post mortem a certain way. However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. Garrett said he doesn't understand why it took police so many years to match an unspent round from the crime scene to a gun owned by a man who lives in Delphi. Germans sister Kelsey tweeted early Friday: Just know how grateful I am to all of you. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll County Prosecutors Office. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. Lists a factory as place of residence. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. Got it? Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. Today we will Discuss about Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed.
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