to all you sanctimonious what iffers and self styled know it alls out there: For that matter, I dont take seriously anyone who carries a revolver for self-defense.
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How The Glock Safety Works - Outdoor Command Since its a bookmark and not a save, it will go there and update to the latest info. That being said, I also carry a M&P 9mm with one in the chamber. I have been a revolver guy my whole life, and just switched to a Glock 19 after getting two days of excellent training and realizing I could shoot the Glock better (to say nothing of more copiously) than my old Detective Special. Pretty soon, it became standard for guns to have a manual safety switch. With any decent holster you will be fine. If carry my Glock its in a solid Crossbreed holster with one in the chamber. There are a lot of older pistols manufactured without a drop safety feature. With only six on tap anyway, whats one less? I want something that goes bang when I pull the trigger, and I could care less how heavy or gritty that might be. And my Ruger .357. Marshals (1998). 29 July 2022 by srnoj. If soft iwb holster freaks you out then get a nice, quality leather or kydex holster. No, but it requires that everything go right when theres a higher chance of something going wrong.
8 Modern Pocket Carry Pistols for under $600 | OutdoorHub Someone with little firearms experience who feels over confident in his/her carry technique is more likely to find him/herself in trouble. 1 - 20 of 30 Posts. The Glock 19 is one of the most popular models of Glock that is available on the market. Now that we know what it means to have one in the chamber, let's figure out whether it is safe to carry a "loaded gun" with you. says: How often do you train your driving abilities?. There are also the safety concerns . My G19 pull is about 4-1/2# about the same as a lot of 1911 guns. Sad, isnt it? In the past, I've heard people say they aren't comfortable carrying a loaded firearm on them or want to just scare people away. That makes a takeaway more likely to succeed if attempted. You could also chamber a snap cap, holster it, do your daily routine around the house and then check if trigger was pulled. Odds of the shooter getting 4 shots off would be pretty low. OFC, most people would rather just follow the herd, but that isnt reasonable, logical, nor wise. Discharge during take down? They claimed that the officer didnt purposefully pull the trigger, but he just twitched from his heart beating fast and the gunshot an unarmed innocent man. If I have to carry a compact, its a DA only with no safety or one with the safety off. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_8',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');I do know one engineer who figured out that if it was dropped from 221 feet and it lands on the right angle squarely on its barrel, it could possibly go off, but the bullet would immediately strike the ground and not do much after that. I have a CCW and am carrying the Glock in a Galco Stow-n-Go IWB holster. It has a safety, but I dont really care about that. Unfortunately, some may not and I have no idea which do and which do not. You have entered an incorrect email address! I am the same way, my kids randomly jump, hug or accidentally collide with me on a regular basis. Often, its holstering the gun into a holster that compromised by clothing. The driving analogy is a good one, because we drive so much (most of us, anyway). It made me feel extremely uncomfortable. WOW! A safety is much easier to manipulate than a slide though. If youre going to pocket carry, get a pocket holster. Just do what you are comfortable/confident with and what is best for your individual personal situation. Situational risk assessment. It's a little bullet with a decent velocity, but will it actually fill the freezer? I carry a 5 shot .357 magnum revolver a good deal of the time. Or a DA/SA auto. Your taste is in your ass., Your brains (what little you have) are in your ass. I have no problem with a 1911 locked and loaded, there has been one in my car since I bought it in 2010. Absolutely YES!! It takes a dedicated squeeze of the finger. Or ya know, apply the tried by 12 or carried by 6 rule. You can get a lockbox for $50 or less from Amazon or from most hardware stores. I couldve even been Ken again, like I was here years ago. It is completely safe if you take the proper precautions. OK , Ill bite this time , I let it pass the first (hundredth) time , but Im all in now . Not much difference really. Ive been known to knock over a glass of milk , spill my coffee down my chin , have people toot their horn at me from time to time , you get my point . I tease my friends when I can see their chamber indicator, I listened to guys who had been there.. Ok, maybe youre taking off your holster and you drop the whole dang thing on the floor. A un-chambered carry gun is useless. But how often are you a klutz when handling or holstering your firearm? so the theory still stands, if you dont want a negligent discharge, dont be negligent. Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered. Its an unnatural, metallic noise that spooked him instantly, and I missed the snap shot at a running target, and he was gone. Made up a little fixture to hold the gun on a piece of pipe, stood up on a ladder and let the gun fall onto its muzzle. Modern revolvers (Smith & Wesson, Taurus, Ruger, Kimber) have transfer bar safeties and as such theres no need to mention it.. FNS9-C. You have to train how you'll fight and fight how you train. Bottom line: For *any* firearm, you have to *put your finger (or some other object) INTO the trigger guard to fire the weapon.*. Have you ever negligently ran a red light? This would require the grip safety to be disabled (a somewhat common modification) or to malfunction. Passive safeties Are Not A Replacement for an active safety. And I include all the copy cat weapons as well as they are as common as the common cold. Absolutely. But in my house, in the middle of the night, what do I care about 50 yard accuracy or the ability to knock over a steel plate or knock a bowling pin off a table? Well saving room for some ice cream after dinner is a bit higher on my list than any damn LDL or HDL mumbo jumbo. His response could be ro shoot you with your gun. Its part of being human. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Never mind the others. Or tell them to carry only 5 bullets instead of six?? Height: 5.4. In fact, it uses S&W Shield Plus magazines. All that said, training, knowledge of your firearm's design/function, and practice go a long way to make any firearm safe to carry with a round chambered though some designs are better for a particular purpose. Glock dominates the handgun market in both the United States and around the globe. I forget just how stupid people like you really are your response is so childish and you carry guns I hope you dont blow your face off looking down the end with six letters grow up. Glock is a brand of polymer-framed, short recoil-operated, locked-breech semi-automatic pistols designed and produced by Austrian manufacturer Glock Ges.m.b.H.. Pray the gay away gov. I carry my Jericho the same way. Many firearms enthusiasts and experts consider it to be the most effective and efficient way to carry a handgun for self-defense. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. On TTAG anyone can use any name at any time, and that makes it really confusing. There we go.
Good username though. Now, what about those darn useless novelty CCH badges?
Do you keep a round chambered? | Firearms Talk However, that also creates issues. in the 20th and 21st centuries, empty chamber is just retarded. Various firearms but could go to dagger, spear, sword and buckler, longsword, or smallsword if for some reason one of those seemed like a good idea. As a matter of fact in an extreme emergency you could carry the HK with no holster and in your pocket or even waist band but if you did the same thing with a Glock you would quickly blow your balls off in short order. In that case, the argument that any gun is better than no gun might be correct but thats as far as it goes. All except for that one guy above who thinks muscle memory means hell never make a mistake, ever. It likewise utilizes a cocking system that is unique amongst striker-fired pistols. Ive run an experiment with a rough 1911 with a POS barrel that was scrap. And, Mad, you really like those ad hominem attacks. They are built using the patented Safe Action System which prevents unintentional firing. Also, had a KelTec with a pocket clip, no holster, ever, and a Glock 40 with a clip draw, and you just need the brains to have nothing else in your carry pocket, and you wont have an issue. Sometimes I ask a question. I may not have the time to chamber a round if a BG is close enough. DA/SA make the most sense to me. Answer (1 of 30): The main reason to carry, is self defense. Victoria: But its hard to imagine a situation where a dropped gun firing into the ground could be a danger. I really would like to know if theres a response to my comments. Repeatedly doing the same thing is training, because it becomes habit. The S&W EZ has a grip safety and a good trigger pull. Options are good. I turn it into the five gun question instead. I would hope that all semi-auto handguns have some sort of striker/firing-pin block that absolutely prevents detonation from dropping the pistol. Each brand-new model enhanced the pistol and its functions. Ammoland eh? Ive said it once, Ill say it again. With hammer fired guns, we have more options to prevent guns from accidently firing. Same mental disability, but different symptoms. So lets just say its a personal choice and your way isnt better than mine, but I will never accidently shoot my leg or foot. So the only downside of the top chamber being empty is one less round available before reloading. These arent exactly the most concealable guns out there. The Glock trigger is too light and too short to be safe. Barnum should have said, There is a Moron born every minute so I guess I will have to say it for him. the number of people out there who keep a single-action revolver as a home defense.
LC9s safe to carry with round in chamber | RugerForum.com Theyre both safe and useful within their own parameters, and people are free to choose the one they prefer. and self styled know it alls. Learn your own weapon and try not to drop it, the last thing you do might be a good catch. lol 15 in the clip one in the pipe. without going into details i have it set up that theres no way anybody gets in my house at night without making enough noise for a long enough time that i wont have enough time to wake up and get my wits about me and get my firearm and charge it while on my way to the threat It would be as if a round was pushed into the ground, primer up, and then a firing pin dropped from a height, point down, directly into the primer. The Glock 43 is VERY close in size to the Glock 42, but chambered for that 9mm cartridge some people demand - or at least don't frown on like they do the .380ACP. If gravity provides the inertia instead of the firearm, then the problem wont arise unless the gun is moving towards the ground, and then stops. Every day. He thinks. You can lift and close the bolt to cock the striker quicker than doing all four motions. The problem is not with the Glock trigger, the problem is a lack of training on the part of the operator. 19th century Colt hammers. No external safey, DA trigger that goes bang when you pull it.. They say tomato, I say Condition 1 PS: I have never had an ND with my EDC G23 chamber loaded these past 22 years. We can talk about home carry vs guns hidden in various locarions in the house. This debate has been going on for years.. which side are you on? To chamber or not to chamber? Haha. She now after many painful operations will be a partial cripple for the rest of her life. But now I get 18! I thought I counted 17 in the battle scene in Open Range. Width: 1.18. Sound off in the comments! Some say it makes the trigger drag, but it doesnt on mine. Cocked and locked . Belittle all you like, there is only one gun in my house which I will not keep around fully loaded, and that is my one Glock. I only know my own lifes experiences, fwiw, too many LEOs cant hit chit no matter what the tool, and Im an honorary. That chit will get you *illed in a real shtf. All it takes is knowing what the word; inertia means. No permits needed, no interference from the State. I will say this again: If other blogs can do it, then it can be done. And make sure when you holster or unholster that the holster is clear of obstructions. As I mentioned elsewhere here, the trigger pull and safety mechanism are irrelevant to the *proximate* cause of any Glock discharge Im aware of. The end result is the same, but the means to that end are directly opposite in how they function. Almost as good as a ball peen hammer. A few weeks went by & I realized I was safe. For those of you that don't know, "Israeli Carry" is the practice carrying a pistol without a round in the chamber. I left it in my series 80, but a gunsmith can easily remove it if desired.
Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered - Franjacobs Why, I havent the slightest idea. One or two chances to mess up with an empty chamber, but thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of chances to ventilate your own leg while taking a piss. The 1911 has a grip safety as well as a thumb safety. Boy, that must be realllll nice. i carry mostly to counter the mass shooting incident the type of which where afterward everybody says if there had only been a good guy with a gun and i will more likely than not have time to draw the weapon and charge it while i get my ooda loop going. Carrying on an empty chamber is probably one of the most common beginner mistakes I hear. Lets face cold hard facts the more chances you take the more likely you will run out of luck, usually much sooner than later. Or would it it take more movement of the slide to do that before an impact could trigger potential discharge? Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it? Ammoland was intelligent enough to allow only one person to use a name at a time.
Best Glocks: Across Calibers & Sizes [Ultimate Guide] It's a mental block you will have to outgrow. The fact remains, we are always training. I dont condemn those who carry a striker with one in the chamber. I have these 2 hidden and had mounted in my house. An officer was chasing a man down a stairwell with his pistol drawn and the man was shot, but apparently, he was not actually a criminal. I for one dont want to take the chance of fumbling around with a gun trying to rack the gun under pressure. I cant believe this is even a subject for discussion. It has been many years since I saw that movie. Now try looking up punctuation. As I commented after the previous article, carry so that all you have to do is draw and pull the trigger. She had the edge, rock steady hands of a brain surgeon. Maybe. Pull back the hammer, you notice how it clicks 4 times? Never happened yet I would rather shoot myself in the leg but still be in fight than have bad guy shoot me because I didnt have a chambered round. In my experience, here in MS, a great many people have a great many home defense firearms of various descriptions. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY AND ONLY ONE WAY TO CARRY A GLOCK SAFELY AND THAT IS WITH AN EMPTY CHAMBER PERIOD AND THERE CAN BE ZERO ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF YOUR MENTAL FACULTIES AND NOT LIVING IN A NARCISSISTIC FANTASY WORLD OF GLOCK UTOPIA. This is why. Im so glad to have seen the one person who never makes a mistake! Big thing, its hammer fired and its also DA/SA, so I have no problem with chambering a round and lowering the hammer. Im a lefty and the controls on the P 89 are completely ambitious I love SA/DA hammer fired autos.
Do you carry your Glock with a chambered round or not? YouTube it. Perhaps why they werent interested in this modification, even though the investor designed it to be visually unobtrusive and to require minimal modifications to the original design. Glocks have a trigger pull of 5-1/2 to 6 pounds. Some folks in the comments section raised objections, as they are often wont to do. Its funny how a pimp like VLAD TEPES is accepted and sometimes glorified for his rhetoric of cut and paste (fake news) values but a person who simply chooses a different way of carrying is villified and demonized by those who scream for personal freedom. The engineer who designed a take down system whereby the slide has to be forward and you have to pull the trigger must have on that day tripped out on LSD. We can put a bullet thru the eye of a bunny sitting still but its hard to get a head shot when its running, us being the bunny. Hm. I used to carry a Walther PPQ. A little background: When Israel was founded, "drop safe" firearms were not as common as today and the fledgling state had a mixed bag . The internal Safe Action System will not allow the pistol to go off accidentally. One of the interesting things about that is I can (after clearing) dry fire repeatedly and get a rough visual about how much the aim point moves depending on my grip and finger position. Glocks are designed with internal safety features to prevent accidental discharge. A forum community dedicated to Glock Pistol owners and enthusiasts.
Should I Carry With One in The Chamber? - Concealed Carry Inc Granted, is loading a pistol, a shotgun or a rifle the most complicated thing in the world? I have done special work to lighten my trigger and its still not very touchy. The G44 is the ideal pistol to start or enhance your shooting experience. Bottom line: For *any* firearm, you have to *put your finger (or some other object) INTO the trigger guard to fire the weapon. Answer (1 of 104): For me. He grew up hunting, fishing, and trapping. (I don't think any of us are going to try to pocket carry a 1911 or a Glock 17.) Carrying On An Empty Chamber. Go get a titanium firing pin. Must not be working on it very hard.
Smith & Wesson EQUALIZER Review: Crafted For Carry The Glock 19 pistol was initially produced in 1988. Mar 8, 2017 (Edited by Moderator) The LCP II is just as safe to carry as any striker-fired gun on the market without a thumb safety, including every Glock and most M&P's etc. Introducing an unchambered firearm means you only have one hand, at best, firmly gripping the pistol. Ask the famous Black Athlete Plaxico Burress that did that in a New York restaurant a number of years ago. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I find myself walking around with my hips thrust foward, flinching away from the gun. Ive carried in condition one for nearly 25 years. Picture if I was to just strike a primer laying on a hard surface, with a hand held hammer, manually. . He has earned black belts in four martial arts and is a certified Krav Maga instructor. Glock handguns are extremely personalized, and gun owners have the choice to change out sights and sets off. And unlike Mad, I DO make mistakes. My Taurus Millenium G2, basically a glock with a safety, same thing, actions are needed to make it fire.
Should You Carry With One In The Chamber? - Alien Gear Holsters Both have pros and cons the secret is you must be well versed to bringing your gun up to the level of lethal quickly. It wont matter if the slide is in battery or not. It may be injured or busy striking or holding back children, etc.
Carrying With One in the Chamber: Pros and Cons - Tulster Momentum and all. The Glock Gen 4 and Gen 5 models have actually ended up being popular with civilians and self-defense shooters alike. In my 3-screw, yes. Weve beaten this dead horse enough. . If the slide goes back far enough to be out of battery, then the gun will just fire out of battery. I like having a gun ready to shoot but I need a second chance when Im juggling. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The G44 was thoroughly tested with a wide variety of ammunition to ensure maximum performance and . I use either a DiSantis OWB when its jacket/coat weather or an Alien Gear 3.5 IWB when it Polo or T shirt weather. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.