MORRISON: Must have seemed like the enemy was in the camp. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. Unidentified Woman #11: I love them very much. MORRISON: How did you find out what happened, how he had been killed? It will make you question your faith in the world. They still have friends in the province, people Kate said they wouldnt have survived without. She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. I--we both did. Mr. BAGBY: We first got to see him personally in family court.
Slain tot's grandparents welcome new bail law | CBC News We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. a--with a hand grenade in the kitchen with the pin already pulled. granddad? Asked if he would have done anything different back then, David replies, kill Shirley Turner.. did. So I gave her the. It's pretty easy to analyze what the, options are. If Shirley, Turner had her way, they wouldn't have met Zachary at all, claiming she didn't. Mr. SIMPSON: Things people should know about Andrew, he was never late. One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. I sat there. A huge chunk of the remainder of Dear Zachary is the Canadian justice system treating the Bagbys like common criminals while the actual criminal is given a breathtaking amount of freedom.
After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson - SaltWire KATE: (Audio recording) Right. Photo courtesy of David and Kathleen Bagby, dear zachary a letter to a son about his father, Defector Freelancer Policies, Created In Partnership With The National Writers Union. MORRISON: When another of Andrew's best friends, Kurt Kuenne, heard about the murder, he also went into a tailspin. This film wasn't made to win awards, or, for that matter, even be criticized. It will have its television premiere on MSNBC this fall following a theatrical release that is currently in negotiations and expected to be announced in the coming weeks. How do you represent the fact that when you see a crime coming from a mile away you still cant do anything to stop it? His medical studies in Newfoundland were complete. We don't--we don't gush very much. Six-month-old Zachary was, returned to her. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. Mr. SHEARS: Mm, yeah. Well, you dont have to look far, said Dr. T. Clark Simpson, who worked with Bagby. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. I got to go to the trial. Lying on my shoulder and looking up at me as if to say, Yes Nan, Im here.. prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. MP Andrews was spurred on to the creation of this bill after seeing "Dear Zachary" at a March screening in Ottawa to which all Members of Parliament were invited. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah. MORRISON: Was she taunting them, they wondered? And tears are dropping on him, of course, and Kate went to wipe one of those away off his cheek, and a plug came out, where hed been shot in the left cheek. to let out hints that Shirley Turner was the prime suspect. And thank God. With that powerful, evidence, Shirley Turner was formally charged with Andrew's murder and, arrested by Newfoundland police. The film ends with the Bagbys and their relatives, friends, and colleagues reflecting on the father and son, as well as the . And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. Slamdance Film Festival book signing!
David Bagby - Facebook Mr. KUENNE: (Kate holding Zachary) Hello, bud. ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents.
Dr. Andrew Bagby was killed on November 5, 2001, by an older woman named Shirley Jane Turner, who he had dated at a low point in his life. An autopsy report would show that an anti-anxiety drug, prescribed by the very psychiatrist who put up Shirley's bail money had been, mixed into Zachary's formula.
'Nothing to lose' | Gilroy Dispatch | Gilroy, San Martin, CA substance to it. HEATHER: I was so excited that he was dating somebody. October 22, 2009: They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with.
Dear Zachary: A Letter to a son about his father It turns out Shirley Jane Turner is pregnant. Dear Zachary will have its World Premiere at the Slamdance Film Festival, January 17-25, 2008 in Park City, Utah! And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. MORRISON: Ah, but there was a lot to say about Andrew. They raised a wonderful, Unidentified Man #26: Thanks for bringing such a wonderful person. They are warm. 1 Photo. This report aired Dateline Friday, July 23. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. 2023 Cond Nast. Jackson, Kentucky. He laughs as he recalls images of Zachary running up and down a hall, saying that is a joy. When Bagby said he was going to anyway, Simpson asked him to come to his house right after. Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL
kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. I had a husband I loved. See rank. We had negotiated a one-hour-a-week visitation in family court. her. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. Why? The first time we had contact with her was over the phone. Corporal GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, Dr. Turner, I'm Corporal Gardner with the Pennsylvania State Police. doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? The documentary was originally released in 2008. There are things to do, he said, and they try to enjoy life as much as possible. -, "**** (Four stars). (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? Oh, my. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. But on Sunday, when he drove her to the airport, Andrew made it clear to Shirley it was over for good. Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. Blu-ray: Zachary, how's our baby today? Kathryn Schulz, reviewing Making a Murderer recently inThe New Yorker, described howtrue-crime projects can allow for bias to masquerade as objectivity and for people (particularly victims and their families) to be reduced to plot points. Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. Thought that maybe he had found somebody that he could really be happy with. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. By refusing to become the thing they hate, they provide a profound lesson on the power of love and the courage to survive the unthinkable." Based on the title alone, it sounds like one of those saccharine documentaries that only the filmmaker and the subject would ever really care about. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. The full hour will not be available online. Why don't you just take him?'. They are prophecies. You dont leave it behind. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. David bagby, left, and kate bagby, right, celebrate with their son andrew bagby at his graduation from medical school at memorial university of newfoundland in june 2000. contributed by david and kate bagby. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. In that time, it becomes clear that, thankfully, baby Zachary has his fathers penchant for emotional maturity and gravitates not towards his mother, but to his grandmother. MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. Please check back for updates as the bill makes its way through the Senate in the coming weeks -- and if you are a Canadian Citizen, please write your Senator to voice your support of C-464 during this crucial time. Do you feel all right about putting, MORRISON: Safe and warm inside the Bagby house, as the gales of a, Newfoundland winter raged outside, the inevitable happened. MORRISON: So different from who Andrew really was, a kind, devoted son who made Eagle Scout at 15. The reason we go through the lawyers is so that we. In Los Angeles - August 22-28 at the Arclight Hollywood, 6360 Sunset Blvd. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. Now, she sucked us in here, too. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. especially long work day and dropped himself in front of the television. On Aug. 18, 2003, while awaiting extradition to the U.S. on a charge of murdering Andrew, Turner jumped into the waters of Conception Bay South with her 13-month-old son strapped to her in a murder-suicide. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. Add a bio, trivia, and more. Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' She was deranged. Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. The pair planned to take care of the minutiae of dealing with a lost loved one, fly back to California and kill themselves. MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. This documentary starts out like a love letter. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). Every last person who steps foot into a theater to see this will walk away changed.
The Best Man - NBC News Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. I can understand that. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. In the course of the next two yearsas Turners extradition process dragged on, as Bagbys parents moved from California to Newfoundland to fight for custody of the baby, and as the case eventually took an even more terrible turnthe film came to be about those events as well. Mr. BAGBY: (Talking in group) This is about making public exactly what, MORRISON: The Bagbys' public outrage had some results. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. After arriving home, she drove 900 miles back to Pennsylvania to kill the man who rejected her. But as someone else says, Grief is loves unwillingness to let go. So Andrew's father could just as easily be talking about love. For the Bagbys, shock might have, (Photo of David and Zachary; photo of Kate and Zachary; Shirley being escorted, from court; court documents; court exterior; court documents; Kate and David), KATE: I'd sat in the back of the room while Judge Green said to her, `I'm so, sorry, Dr. Turner, your life is on hold, and I know the law is slow.' So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. MORRISON: Do you find yourself going back and playing that back in your mind? Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. Oh my god. The amount of the award will be variable, but is expected to be in the range of $1,000. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. Did anyone have more friends than he? (Photo of Shirley; "Canada" on building; T.J. Shears walking), Mr. T.J. SHEARS: My mom was just like, `Oh, hey.' The Bagbys, who recently marked their 50th wedding anniversary, say it sustained them for nearly a decade as . It would be kind of upsetting, I guess, to let your son spend time. How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. MORRISON: And now that she was freed, Shirley would once again, Mr. BAGBY: We had to take him down the stairs and give him to, Shirley's friend, who happened to have a car seat. The other, their grandson, Zachary Turner. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." the water. But they also contribute to the feeling of watching something urgent and unmediated. She has to veer away from the image and instead see him as a living being. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. And so, on August 18, 2003, Shirley Jane Turner kills Zachary. Go away.'. Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. then one day I realized what it was. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. Very, very serious. We thought of him as a hostage, said David. MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. KEITH MORRISON reporting: He was everybody's idea of the perfect best man. The night was. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. I just want to get through medical school.'. May 16, 2008: He says his mother was so often, unavailable, especially from the time she started medical school.
But a few weeks later, she showed up in Pennsylvania, unexpected, for the wedding of one of his friends. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. . March 18, 2008: He was in, Mr. SHEARS: I would cook supper sometimes when she wasn't around. See details above! In this way, Dear Zachary inverts the usual way of telling murder stories. Zachary didn't seem like. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. In mid-December, the Bagbys talked to The Western Star about the rerelease of the documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, by Kurt Kuenne. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. I praise Kurt Kuenne for having the heart and determination to perfectly put together one of the most powerful documentaries I have ever watched. MORRISON: But she was allowed to go back to Newfoundland? (Sea at night; photo of Shirley and Zachary; autopsy report; photo of man; photo of Shirley and Zachary; Zachary sleeping; David and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Kate just quit. Or it's in the car. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. put Zachary on her lap to open presents, and he resists. . TO ME ITS REAL LIFE. Dear Zachary avoids the first pitfall by directly confronting the second. My TV-consumption habits for the past several months have been awash in murder, and Netflix knows itwhich is how, fresh from binge-watching Making a Murderer and hungry for more, I recently came across Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. This odd documentarywhich deals with the death of a young physician named Andrew Bagby, who was a childhood friend of the films director, Kurt Kuennemade a small splash when it was first released, in 2008, but its worth revisiting now, in the midst of the recent bonanza of true-crime hits. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm interested in the gun. news about his mother and baby brother, and was slammed with instant blowback. What kind of headfuck must that be? Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. David Bagby will be signing copies of Dance with the Devil on Sunday, January 20th, from 3-4 P.M. at Dolly's Bookstore, 510 Main Street, Park City, Utah. MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? And as tragic as this story is, that is also where its consolation lies: that Shirley Jane Turner destroyed everything around her in an attempt to extinguish the love she was incapable of experiencing herself, and in the end she couldnt. HEATHER: I knew he'd been struggling with me moving on and dating other people. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) You dont get over it. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Or what about the one of me and Andrew? KATE: You get a different kind of relationship with God after this kind of. They were good friends; it was he who Bagby had told about the fatal meeting with Turner beforehand. 2015 - 2020. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. helped convince me that she would not hurt Zachary. MORRISON: Andrew Bagby. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? Did. Click HERE for assistance. Instead, the film's dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagby's parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their son's body. December 10, 2007: MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. How the fuck do you live like that? But the fact that theyre probably killers means they are much more dangerous than the rest of us, probably. Mr. BAGBY: And part of Andrew's problem was, I think, he was just too nice to say, you know, `Get the hell out of my life. Mommy misses you. COLLECTOR'S EDITION DIGIPAK only from Oscilloscope Laboratories:
KATE: (Zachary hugging Kate) This is your Uncle Kurt. Woman #11: Doesn't matter what happened. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Hoping to gain custody of the child, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland. They are selfless. The Bagbys, who recently marked their 50th wedding anniversary, say it sustained them for nearly a decade as they struggled to come to terms first with the 2001 slaying of their 28-year-old son, Dr. Andrew Bagby, and later with the murder of Andrew's son, 13 . But their efforts to. And now it's just. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed.
After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson, California At least he might have asleep when she went in. But of course I didn't. | Learn more about Tessa Bagby's work experience, education . Senior Writer and Project Manager. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. It left me looking for the impossibility of marking the film above the highest grade available on the festival's voting ballot. But you will come away believing in people. Understood? Keith Morrison reports. The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. MORRISON: It was August 2003, the wee hours of the morning by the ocean. Kate went to the floor, and I kicked the door and--oh, we, just--just like with Andrew, there's nothing you can do. You live your life, you create an entire universe around you, you trundle along, and then FUCK. ', KATE: He's so loved. ', Mr. SIMPSON: And I told him, I said, `You know, Andrew, when I break up with somebody and put them on a plane and send them 1300 miles away,' I said, `They knock on my front door, I'm going out the back door and I'm calling the police.' Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' Watching the documentary brings up a mix of feelings from joy to hatred. Bagby came from Sunnyvale, California, and was the son of Kathleen Daphne Bagby ( ne Barnard), a registered nurse and midwife from Chatham, England, United Kingdom; and David Franklin Bagby, an American former United States Navy serviceman and computer engineer. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. Cpl. What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. However awkward Shirley Turner made it, they were sweet, cooperative. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. It then played SXSW in Austin, Texas, where it left audiences stunned and in tears. So he came straight for me. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. (A huge thanks to the folks at Different by Design in Los Angeles, CA and Anarchy Post in Glendale, CA for making this possible and affordable.). He said, `What do you mean?' The apparent culprit was a woman named Shirley Turner, whom Bagby had dated but had broken up with on November 4th, in Latrobe, just before putting her on a plane to Council Bluffs, Iowa, where she lived at the time. As one friend said, Hes like the blessing Andrew left behind. It was for Zachary that Andrews parents retired, cashed in all their savings and moved from their lifelong home in Pennsylvania to Newfoundland, where Shirley Jane Turner lived. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. After the shooting, according to Kate, Turner called her claiming she was trying to reach Andrew.